Osteopathy in different countrys - same education?

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Permalink Reply by Clement Rhein on December 28, 2007 at 7:10pm

IN France, there are 7 "governing bodies" that, well, don't really do much. They give good info, and patients can find Osteopaths easily but they don't have any power over Osteopathy. It is the government in France that deals with it. And its not pretty. From this year, we cannot treat babies (under 6 months) or do cervical wheels without the doctors presciption. Secondly, we cannot do any "pelvic touch" (not alowed to touch the pelvis) or do any obstetric techniques, full stop. Its rather crazy, but what the hell, I practise the way I want to anyway - luckily i'm not extra keen on cervical HVTs! :-)
Its all political crap, doctors want and have the power, so they do what they want...
UK is the place to be i say!
To answer your question, the ROF doesn't really do much, regulation wise...

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Permalink Reply by Jody Jakob on December 28, 2007 at 7:38pm

I know I may be staring a war here!!!
But why do the French always have to be difficult and special!!
The restrictive practice laws are a tavesty and an insult to Osteopathic practitioners everywhere.
And...this is the sad part and please hear me!!!!
It is NOT about the medicos trying to limit outr practice BUT RATHER Osteopaths who refuse to present an evidence base to the authorities......we must lose our arrogance in order to be accepted...in France and elsewhere!!

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Permalink Reply by Ronan O'Brien on December 28, 2007 at 8:19pm

I don't think the issue is with France or our French colleagues but rather our profession not presenting a unified stance. In Frances case, 7 governing bodies seems 6 too many to me. However I am sure France is not alone on this issue. That said we seem to be going off topic - with that in mind I've started a new thread on osteopathy regulation.

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Permalink Reply by Jody Jakob on December 28, 2007 at 8:44pm

France is cool compared to Portugal.
We have 13 governing bodies!!!

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Permalink Reply by Sabine on December 24, 2007 at 2:09pm

First: Merry Christmas for all of you. I´m not really sure about the differences. Full-time we study the whole week and sometimes the weekends over 5 years. I think about 5000 hours. Part time students have to study at least 1350 hours( I was really shocked when I read that a few minutes ago.) In our college they study 4days every sixth week for 5 years. I think there´re many differences in quality. Other teaching methods...we learn more by trying it out...they get everything presented and have to repead it. We see patients with different teachers ( alone, in small groups or with the whole class) I`don´t know how the part time students make there practical experiences. They try it out at home with their patients I think. (poor patients) I would never send somebody to a part time osteopath just finished college. Our teachers often say fulltime osteopaths are really better than the parttime students. Some parttimes can´t forget what they learned in their previous work as physiotherapists. They make a mix of physiotherapy and osteopathy and mostly this doesn´t work.
The problem is, they study...after 5 years they can make their D.O title like we can. In Germany Osteopaths can only work alone ( not together with MDs) when they have made what we call "heilpraktiker""a practiioner for alternative medicine". So the fulltimestudents have to make this "heilpraktiker" to work alone. The parttime students can work with osteopathy as physiotherapists. Some of them make the "heilpraktiker" too. And then of course there are the physiotherapists made a weekend course in osteopathy....they simply write on their shingle: osteopathic treatment. .....GREAT!!!
and of course we need a european standard to protect the patients from black sheeps (I hope that´s an english saying, too. :-)

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Permalink Reply by Ross on December 24, 2007 at 7:35pm

part time courses for osteopathy are wholly inadequate and i wouldnt want to send my granny to someone that had done an itsy bitsy patchy course like that. I feel its a shame that osteopathy is not regulated across the continent when the atrocity that is dynamic chiropractic has been sorted for decades (now the 3rd largest care provider after medicine and dentistry) wheres this piriformis thingy again?

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