Gathering place for osteopaths
recurrent left spiral line
I've read Thomas Myers Anatomy Train sometimes ago and applied the knowledge of myofascial meridians in my examination with every patient since.
I find that 9/10 or so patients have a more or less tight left spiral line (LSPL).
I thought about wether it is because I examin the LSPL with my right hand (RSPL examined with left hand) and therefore being right handed somewhat naturally press harder, but that's not it.
The only thing I thought about was when reaching back deep in my brain and recalling the common pelvic lesion taught at the ESO in GOT classes in the first year. If i remember correctly, it was anterior rotation of right inominate and posterior rotation of left inominate due to the liver weight so much. That does sort of fits in with the LSPL as well has the functional line that goes with it.
Anyway, has anybody else who does use myofascial meridians find the LSPL affected routinly?
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Permalink Reply by Clement Rhein on -
You're right Rick, thinking of it, this common pelvic lesion business is rather pointless. However, perhaps we only studied it so that we knew that it is there but does not necessarily needs treatment. That would make a bit more sense. Any ESO students out there who would be kind enough to fill in this gap?
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Permalink Reply by Theodore Jordan on -
Glancing back through osteopathic literature reveals that many osteopaths have recognized common body structural asymmetries including:
-Gordon Zinc's "common compensatory patterns" - probably the best known example in the US, often taught in US schools.
-Neidner (Niedner?, other spelling?) theorized that the twists of the body were due to the 'coriolis effect' (the effect that makes water swirl going down a drain).
-Beryl Arbuckle, a pediatrician and great forgotten osteopathic writer, noted that the normal birth process twisted the occiput one direction, and the sacrum in the other direction, creating a twist that can persist into adulthood.
-I remember reading a theory about the twisting of the viscera during embryologic development as being the causative force of later asymmetry, including scoliosis (can't remember an author).
-More recently, I am intrigued by discussion of retained primitive reflexes as being the cause for chronic musculoskeletal strain patterns within the body, including symmetric and asymmetric patterns.
This is all very thought provoking stuff. But these common asymmetries are widely recognized, yet remain without definitive explanation.
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Permalink Reply by Adrienn Fulop on -
Dear Michael,
It sounds so good: sorting out the pelvis as a whole, creating a better functioning body. But how? In my experience treating someone for half an hour per week will not result in any change to their posture (torsions and asymetry). Someone's posture is not just about tight muscles joints and fascia (which we can perhaps have transiant effect on), but also about weakness in muscles joints and fascia (which can only be changed by the client excercising them everyday for ever) and also about the person's psyche, how they feel about themselves, their self image, which we don't have any effect on.
I feel that the effects we manage to achive on the pelvis or the whole posture are so transient that by the time the client arrives home their pre-treatment posture is already coming back. Their S.I. pain or lumbar pain will improve due to the fact that the tissues are looser and there is better fluid movement not because we improved their posture. We can achive this improvement in fluid movement with using pumping harmonic type techniques as well without ever looking at the position of the pelvis and the whole posture.
I feel that to improve someone's posture (and I'm not saying to make it symetrical, but to improve it so it functions better, and stop it getting worse and worse) that individual would have to have DAILY treatments on their tight restricted areas, train DAILY their weak areas and see a psychologist at least weakly to improve their self image.
And if they ever stopped this regime it would probably take a few weeks for their posture/pelvis to start slipping back into pre-regime state.
I know that when I stop running my muscles start loosing tone noticable after 2 weeks...
So I don't know why we spend so much time and effort on postural analysis and thinking the solution is to wind the posture back a few steps. I don't know how it would be possible to achieve that in the time we spend with our clients.
When I was in college I always felt that the postural approach is like pissing against the wind (sorry but it's a funny analogy). And then I came across Eyal Lederman's books and finally felt like someone else thinks the same and he can also back it up with a lot of research.
But I'm interested, since you have been practicing a long time, do you really think it is possible to better posture in half an hour?
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Permalink Reply by Matthew Stewart on -
Ah yes, Eyal Lederman. The self appointed professor of osteopathy who claims an appointment at Unitec as a professor (a post higher than the current head of the school) but isn't listed on the Institute's web site or staff directory. He even spells the name of the institution incorrectly (Unitech Osteopapthic College [sic]. I guess you can get away with that when the institution is in New Zealand.
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Permalink Reply by Man Dibble on -
Ledermans PhD was actually in physiotherapy from Kings I think and he is visiting adjunct professor at Unitec Poly in NZ, who were not aware that his PhD was not in osteopathy. I think this is why his approach is basic physio stuff. Of course if he had found that minimal leverage thrusts to a patients LS (which may have been what he was taught as an osteopath) hasn't resolved their low back pain its not surprising and that he started looking elsewhere for a better solution.
Harmonics, now thats a completely different ball game, even Lederman discredits his own passive motion techniques now.
Matthew Stewart said:Ah yes, Eyal Lederman. The self appointed professor of osteopathy who claims an appointment at Unitec as a professor (a post higher than the current head of the school) but isn't listed on the Institute's web site or staff directory. He even spells the name of the institution incorrectly (Unitech Osteopapthic College [sic]. I guess you can get away with that when the institution is in New Zealand.
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