Gathering place for osteopaths
8%!!!!
After receiving the email from the GOsC asking me about my views on the 8-10% reduction in fees am I the only one that finds this a complete insult to mine/our intelligence?
They have the cheek to say that “substantial” savings and been found and “savings to registrants in the 2012-2013 financial year could be in the order of 8%, over and above inflationary increases which have been absorbed by the GOsC”, well good for them. But their inflation matters have been well and truly covered over the past years by the increase in number of qualified osteopaths and by not promoting the profession any more. We can all make up our own minds what we think of 8%!!
They have always in the past, whenever an argument about reducing fees come up, come back with the old favorite response “oh yes but to reduce the fees we would have to go to parliament, Privy council etc that will take time......” Yet now when they want to look good with their 8% reduction they aim to push it through within 3 months. Panicking due to the up and coming enabling excellence review? Hopefully the Privy council will see this insulting/embarrassing offer and say go back and try again!!
I will be returning my form printed from the email, but I will not be ticking any boxes I will however put in the above to let them know my feelings about their complete and utter incompetence, shall we use the much banded around phrase ‘not fit for purpose’, and apparent contempt they hold the profession in.
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Permalink Reply by Super-Star-osteo on -
That is true small fry and I am thankful for that but they then take that title and sell it like a trademark. The title osteopath needs protecting but is it worth the current or the new reduced registration fee? I am afraid i don't know the answer to that. It is worth it, only to stop any Tom, Dick or Harry calling themself Osteopath. However, the gosc also need to protect the profession by graduating a sensible number osteopaths each year. Not validating a new course on a whim and essentially forcing every new graduate to set up their own practice, due to the lack of work! This has only occured (in my humble opinion) because the supply of osteopaths far outweights the demand and because our regulator refuses to promote our profession. I have heard anecdotes that they would like to graduate a number osteopaths, akin to that of physiotherapist, which currently stands at 34,000.
Small Fry said:What it does for us is give protection of title.
Super-Star-osteo said:...what does having regulation actually do for US?
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Permalink Reply by Roger Kingston on -
Several points to make:
1: The BOA's role is to put pressure on the GOstC but the GOstC refuse to discuss certain matters / well actually most matters with them - its a lousy situation and as they are protected by statute there is little the BOA can do to influence them.
2: There are too many colleges now and much of what they teach has little or no resemblence to the osteopathy I was taught. Likewise does the profession have any idea about what a sensible number of practitioners is? Without the prospect of mass NHS employment then there is little point in the continued expansion of numbers.
3: The HPC really is the only way to achieve NHS parity with the physios etc. You are either in the club or you are outside it.
4: The registration fee is obscene - in terms of value for money what the GOstC gives us is less than the HPC gives its members - hence maybe about £30 a year is justified on that basis.
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Permalink Reply by Small Fry on -
Yes, Roger, however we frame it, lack of effective opposition is a problem. It's as important in politics as a defence is in law. Just leaving aside the function of supporting individual practitioners, which seems to be something they can do well, what we are discussing here is their political role, which is a seperate function.
You seem to view the BOA as doing the best they can against overwhelming odds, whereas my experience of dealing with them tallies more with that of Jason Cook: that they are as unaccountable as the GOsC, and have their own agenda which is very difficult to fathom.
http://www.sacralmusings.com/forum/topics/boa-position-re-gosc-hpc
Here we see the chief exec coming onto SM to tell us that he doesn't want to know what the profession thinks about the HPC at the moment. The trouble is, by chucking in a few of the right noises (responsible approach, encouraging mature debate etc) he hasn't convinced everybody. It still boils down to the BOA would rather not deal with this. As I am not a member I am not sure where they have got to with the discussion (anywhere?), but this is clearly an issue about which you feel passionate so I would ask what your asssociation is doing to represent you on this (anything?).
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community teamPermalink Reply by Ronan O'Brien on -
It seems a 10% reduction has been settled on. GOSC have also published a list of comments they received, including the "last gasp of a retiring osteopath".
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Permalink Reply by Quad on
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Hi All
looking through this, it still appears to me that osteopaths still fail to see that gosc does not promote the profession, its sole duty is to protect the public from the dangers of seeing an osteopath. but now i think that there should be a merger of both the gosc & gcc to one organisation, as both have the same job, it is down to the relevent Association to promote each profession. this would increase numbers of members and therefore cause a price drop.
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Permalink Reply by Teacoaster on
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I think it speaks volumes that so many of the profession still believe GOsC still promotes us. Just shows how many just pay their fees each year without question and not look to see what our governing body is wasting our money on?
Why join with GCC? This may reduce our fees to approx. £500, I say, and always have, lets go the whole way, join HPC and reduce our fees to £76 for the same service!!
Quad said:Hi All
looking through this, it still appears to me that osteopaths still fail to see that gosc does not promote the profession, its sole duty is to protect the public from the dangers of seeing an osteopath. but now i think that there should be a merger of both the gosc & gcc to one organisation, as both have the same job, it is down to the relevent Association to promote each profession. this would increase numbers of members and therefore cause a price drop.
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Permalink Reply by Roger Kingston on
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HPC makes sense financially. Or frankly why bother let the government pay for a quango themselves if they want the public protecting why do we have to pay for it?
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community teamPermalink Reply by Ronan O'Brien on -
My understanding is that GOSC did once have a statutory responsibility to promote osteopathy but this was changed in recent years. I guess the argument is as they no longer do this where are the associated reductions in fees? After all the £750 was set based on costs involved in promoting, regulating and developing the profession.
Roger out of curiosity how much are fees in Oz?
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Permalink Reply by Roger Kingston on
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About $650 Au I think so about half of what you guys pay.
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Permalink Reply by Teacoaster on
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Hi
The GOsC did initially "promote" osteopathy up till about 5 years ago. Although the only thing I saw it doing was producing some posters and leaflets that we could then buy from them. So not much effort required there!
Ronan O'Brien said:My understanding is that GOSC did once have a statutory responsibility to promote osteopathy but this was changed in recent years. I guess the argument is as they no longer do this where are the associated reductions in fees? After all the £750 was set based on costs involved in promoting, regulating and developing the profession.
Roger out of curiosity how much are fees in Oz?
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